Ambiguities in AI Specs revisited

[Xingliang Lou]

In a previous posting, I raised this question:

"Also, for the double-suited condition, does the LEFT BOWER count as a
SEPARATE SUIT?"

And you said

"The left bauer is among the trump cards; it is not a separate suit."

However, when the random seed is 3, this occurs:

Player 3 deals
The top card on the kitty is: AS
Computer (CMA) Player 4 (JD,JC,JS,QD,10C) > Player 4 passes
Computer (CMA) Player 1 (10H,QS,9H,JH,KS) > Player 1 passes
Computer (CMA) Player 2 (KD,9D,9C,KC,AC) > Player 2 passes
Computer (CMA) Player 3 (AD,10S,AH,QC,QH) > Player 3 passes
Everybody passed, so bid for a suit.
Computer (CMA) Player 4 (JD,JC,JS,QD,10C) > Player 4 passes

Here, you can clearly see that if player 3 bids for clubs. He has 3
trumps (JC, JS, 10C) and also another single suit (JD, QD). But
our_euchre's AI passed instead of going alone!

[Joanne Atlee]

You may be using a stale our_euchre executable. (I posted a new version
yesterday morning.)

When I run our_euchre with seed 3, Player 1 bids hearts before Player 3
has a chance to bid.


Jo

Post by Xingliang Lou
"Also, for the double-suited condition, does the LEFT BOWER count as a
SEPARATE SUIT?"
And you said
"The left bauer is among the trump cards; it is not a separate suit."
Player 3 deals
The top card on the kitty is: AS
Computer (CMA) Player 4 (JD,JC,JS,QD,10C) > Player 4 passes
Computer (CMA) Player 1 (10H,QS,9H,JH,KS) > Player 1 passes
Computer (CMA) Player 2 (KD,9D,9C,KC,AC) > Player 2 passes
Computer (CMA) Player 3 (AD,10S,AH,QC,QH) > Player 3 passes
Everybody passed, so bid for a suit.
Computer (CMA) Player 4 (JD,JC,JS,QD,10C) > Player 4 passes
Here, you can clearly see that if player 3 bids for clubs. He has 3
trumps (JC, JS, 10C) and also another single suit (JD, QD). But
our_euchre's AI passed instead of going alone!

[Joanne Atlee]

The left bower never counts as a separate suit. There was a problem in
the our_euchre executable.

I've uploaded a new executable.


Jo

Post by Xingliang Lou
"Also, for the double-suited condition, does the LEFT BOWER count as a
SEPARATE SUIT?"
And you said
"The left bauer is among the trump cards; it is not a separate suit."
Player 3 deals
The top card on the kitty is: AS
Computer (CMA) Player 4 (JD,JC,JS,QD,10C) > Player 4 passes
Computer (CMA) Player 1 (10H,QS,9H,JH,KS) > Player 1 passes
Computer (CMA) Player 2 (KD,9D,9C,KC,AC) > Player 2 passes
Computer (CMA) Player 3 (AD,10S,AH,QC,QH) > Player 3 passes
Everybody passed, so bid for a suit.
Computer (CMA) Player 4 (JD,JC,JS,QD,10C) > Player 4 passes
Here, you can clearly see that if player 3 bids for clubs. He has 3
trumps (JC, JS, 10C) and also another single suit (JD, QD). But
our_euchre's AI passed instead of going alone!